Are things really getting worse? Jeremy Lent on Steven Pinker.

This week we speak with Jeremy Lent about Steven Pinker’s new book Enlightenment Now. Jeremy Lent is author of The Patterning Instinct: A Cultural History of Humanity’s Search for Meaning, which investigates how different cultures have made sense of the universe. He is founder of the nonprofit Liology Institute, dedicated to fostering a sustainable worldview.

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